A Refutation of Ahmed Deedat’s Crucifixion or Cruci-fiction: Part 12

The index to this series of posts can be found here.  This post is a refutation of “Chapter 12:  Disciples Disbelieved?” of Ahmed Deedat’s Crucifixion or Cruci-fiction.

Chapter 12 opens with:

JOURNEY TO EMMAUS

That very day, on the way to Emmaus, Jesus joins two of his disciples and discourses with them for 5 miles without being recognised by them! What a perfect masquerade! On reaching their destination, the disciples persuade the Master to join them for a meal.

“And it came to pass, as he sat EATING with them, he took bread and blessed it, and broke it, and gave it to them”

(HOLY BIBLE) Luke 24:30

By the manner in which he brake bread (meaning the way he blessed it), “their eyes were opened”. Did they walk from Jerusalem to Emmaus with closed eyes? No! We are being told that the disciples recognised him only at that juncture. Luke continues with his story, that when they recognised him, “he vanished out of sight”. Did he do the Indian “Rope Trick”? Please don’t be ridiculous! What it means is that he went away. He went out of their sight.

Luke 24:16 says the two disciples were kept from recognizing Jesus but does not explain how this was done.  The plain meaning of Luke 24:31 is that Jesus did vanish and did not merely walk away out of the sight of the disciples.  Next Deedat writes:

INCREDIBLE SCEPTICISM

Full of excitement, the two disciples rushed up to that upper room, where the other disciples were:-

“And they went and told it unto the residue (of the disciples), NEITHER BELEIVED they them”

(HOLY BIBLE) Mark 16:13

What is wrong with these disciples of Jesus? Why are they reluctant to believe? What is their difficulty? The problem is that they are confronted with evidence that Jesus is ALIVE! Not resurrected (i.e. not spiritualised), but evidence that he is the same physical Jesus, flesh and bones as any one of them! — Eating food! In disguise — but not a spirit and not a ghost. This is what they could not believe. If they were told that Mary had seen the ghost of Jesus, they would have believed. If the above two had told the rest that they too had seen the ghost of Jesus, they would certainly have believed that. They were a people who had seen spirits going into pigs and stampeding two thousand of them to destruction — (Mark 5:13). They had seen spirits going into trees and drying them up from their very roots overnight — (Mark 77:20). They had seen “seven devils” coming out of Mary Magdalene — (Mark 76:9). All this was quite natural to their age. Spirits, ghosts and devils! They could accept that which was believable at that time and age. But a LIVE Jesus? A physical Jesus? One who had escaped the stings of death — (Acts 2:24)? This was too heavy for their “little faith” — (Matthew 6:30; 8:26; 74:37; 76:8; and Luke 72:28).

(a) Mary Magdalene testifies that Jesus is ALIVE. 1

(b) The disciples from Emma us testify that he is ALIVE!

(c) Angels said that Jesus was ALIVE! (Luke 24:23).

(d) Two men that stood by told the women “why seek ye the living among the dead?” That he is ALIVE! (Luke 24:4-5).

Yet they will not believe!! Let us see whether they will believe the words of their own “Lord and Master”, in the following chapter.

1. ALIVE: Here as well as in every other place where this word “alive” occur, it has been faithfully reproduced from the Christian Scriptures, and it is not any interpretation of mine. If these verses were inspired by God, then, it seems, that the poor “Hotv Ghost” did not have the word “RESURRECTED” in its vocabulary!

It appears that Ahmed Deedat is not familiar with what Christians actually believe about the resurrection.  He seems to think that the resurrected body is a spiritual body, yet Christians believe it is a glorified physical body.  The fact that Jesus has flesh and bones is not a problem.  The doubt of the disciples stems from the fact that people do not rise from the dead every day.

In the footnote Deedat claims the Gospels do not say Jesus was resurrected.  Once again he is lying to his readers.  Luke 24:7 says Jesus’ prophecy in Luke 9:22, where he says he will die and rise after three days, has been fulfilled.  The disciples on the road to Emmaus know that Jesus was condemned to death (Luke 24:20) and thus the fact he is alive means he was resurrected.  In Luke 24:46 Jesus explains how the Scriptures foretold that he must rise from the dead.

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2 Replies to “A Refutation of Ahmed Deedat’s Crucifixion or Cruci-fiction: Part 12”

  1. My friends, this person “Jayman777” is a liar. I have checked all the refrences he has mentioned above and none refutes Sheikh Ahmed Deedat’s statements.
    Please dont read comments by any tom dick and Jayman777 and believe.
    Read yourself the books writtern by Sheikh Ahmed Deedat and then decide yourself.
    After all its your faith and every individual is responsible for his own doings (Ezekiel 18:20)
    May God bless you all

  2. Aarish, thanks for commenting.

    My friends, this person “Jayman777″ is a liar. I have checked all the refrences he has mentioned above and none refutes Sheikh Ahmed Deedat’s statements.

    I have not tried to mislead anyone. If I’ve made an honest mistake please point it out so that I can correct it.

    Please dont read comments by any tom dick and Jayman777 and believe.

    Likewise don’t blindly believe any comments from Ahmed Deedat or Aarish. As I stated in part 2, read the Gospels for yourself. I have provided the necessary biblical citations so that the reader can make his or her own judgment.

    Read yourself the books writtern by Sheikh Ahmed Deedat and then decide yourself.

    In this series of posts, I have quoted Deedat’s chapters in full and directed the reader to his book. If the reader reads the Gospels, Deedat’s book, and my comments he or she should be able to make an informed decision.

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